Wednesday, October 20, 2004

Greens are no friend of Labor

That's what Shaun Carney maintains in
The Age
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Success for the Greens comes through taking seats and votes away from Labor, not the Liberals. If Labor cannot learn the lesson from its own experience, in which it gave the Greens everything they wanted in terms of forests only to see its electoral fortunes reversed, perhaps it should look across the Pacific.

George Bush owes his 2000 election victory above all to one man: Ralph Nader, the unreconstructed leftie crusader who dragged precious votes away from Al Gore. And who did Nader represent in the presidential ballot? The Greens.
Much the same could be said of the New Zealand Labour Party.

4 Comments:

Blogger Jordan said...

What could be said of the NZLP?

That Helen Clark owes her election victory to them?

That they pose a mortal threat to the Labour Party?

Neither is correct... I am intrigued. In a proportional representation system, "taking votes away from" doesn't apply. If anything, the Greens *help* Labour. The more "new left" type people can go and vote for the Greens, and Labour can focus on the centre and on working people's issues. So the Green vote can expand and the Labour vote can do the same.

Look at National's difficulties with their minnow coalition partner draining vital votes away... they would far prefer to have a strong and lively ACT Party on their flank, if they understand how MMP works (a big if).

20 October 2004 at 3:45 PM  
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20 October 2004 at 3:57 PM  
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20 October 2004 at 4:19 PM  
Blogger Greyshade said...

"In a proportional representation system, 'taking votes away from' doesn't apply"

nor in a preferential voting system!

21 October 2004 at 10:27 AM  

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